E104: Tariffs, Turbulence, and Tough Calls: Operating in an Era of Economic Whiplash

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This is a podcast episode titled, E104: Tariffs, Turbulence, and Tough Calls: Operating in an Era of Economic Whiplash. The summary for this episode is: <p><strong>What should founders and operators prioritize when the market swings 6% in a day?</strong>&nbsp;In this episode, Sam, Asad and AJ break down the fallout from historic tariff whiplash, trillion-dollar market swings, and the signals that separate resilient companies from risky bets. They debate:</p><ul><li><strong>Defensive moves vs. offensive plays</strong>: When to cut costs, when to lean into growth, and why “profitable efficiency” is the new mantra.</li><li><strong>Customer psychology in chaos</strong>: Why “delay” is the word of the year—and how to combat it.</li><li><strong>The global ripple effect</strong>: How geopolitical instability impacts hiring, pricing, and even brand perception for U.S. companies abroad.</li><li><strong>AI, offshoring, and variable costs</strong>: Tactics to future-proof your team and margins.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Plus, live data from Pavilion’s pulse survey reveals how 56% of companies are already adjusting 2025 forecasts—and why the CEOs argue volatility isn’t going away. Whether you’re debating layoffs, M&amp;A, or just how to sleep at night, this episode is your survival guide."</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for tuning in! Want more content from Pavilion?&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>You're invited! <a href="https://www.joinpavilion.com/topline-slack" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join the free Topline Slack channel</a> to connect with 600+ revenue leaders, share insights, and keep the conversation going beyond the podcast!</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.joinpavilion.com/topline-newsletter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Subscribe to the Topline Newsletter</a> to get the latest industry developments and emerging go-to-market trends delivered to your inbox every Thursday.</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.joinpavilion.com/the-revenue-leadership-podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tune into The Revenue Leadership Podcast with Kyle Norton</a> every Wednesday. Kyle dives deep into the strategies and tactics that drive success for revenue leaders like Jason Lemkins of SaaStr, Stevie Case of Vanta, and Ron Gabrisko of Databricks.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Key Moments:</strong></p><p>[01:19] – Market Volatility &amp; Whiplash</p><p>[07:07] – Defensive Strategies for Volatile Times</p><p>[31:36] – Customer Psychology: Fighting "Delay" Mindset</p><p>[47:01] – People Strategy: Building a Resilient Team</p><p>[57:52] – Offensive Plays: When to Attack</p><p>[01:05:41] – Wins &amp; Fails</p>
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DESCRIPTION

What should founders and operators prioritize when the market swings 6% in a day? In this episode, Sam, Asad and AJ break down the fallout from historic tariff whiplash, trillion-dollar market swings, and the signals that separate resilient companies from risky bets. They debate:

  • Defensive moves vs. offensive plays: When to cut costs, when to lean into growth, and why “profitable efficiency” is the new mantra.
  • Customer psychology in chaos: Why “delay” is the word of the year—and how to combat it.
  • The global ripple effect: How geopolitical instability impacts hiring, pricing, and even brand perception for U.S. companies abroad.
  • AI, offshoring, and variable costs: Tactics to future-proof your team and margins.


Plus, live data from Pavilion’s pulse survey reveals how 56% of companies are already adjusting 2025 forecasts—and why the CEOs argue volatility isn’t going away. Whether you’re debating layoffs, M&A, or just how to sleep at night, this episode is your survival guide."


Thanks for tuning in! Want more content from Pavilion? 


You're invited! Join the free Topline Slack channel to connect with 600+ revenue leaders, share insights, and keep the conversation going beyond the podcast!


Subscribe to the Topline Newsletter to get the latest industry developments and emerging go-to-market trends delivered to your inbox every Thursday.


Tune into The Revenue Leadership Podcast with Kyle Norton every Wednesday. Kyle dives deep into the strategies and tactics that drive success for revenue leaders like Jason Lemkins of SaaStr, Stevie Case of Vanta, and Ron Gabrisko of Databricks.


Key Moments:

[01:19] – Market Volatility & Whiplash

[07:07] – Defensive Strategies for Volatile Times

[31:36] – Customer Psychology: Fighting "Delay" Mindset

[47:01] – People Strategy: Building a Resilient Team

[57:52] – Offensive Plays: When to Attack

[01:05:41] – Wins & Fails