This is a podcast episode titled, Should you let OpenClaw pen test your system? Plus: Cybersecurity for ephemeral software. The summary for this episode is: <p>Sophos let&nbsp;OpenClaw&nbsp;run wild on its network (sort of). It&nbsp;wasn’t&nbsp;as bad an idea as it sounds!&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>With a few guardrails and restrictions in place, the security software firm turned&nbsp;OpenClaw&nbsp;into a serious little pen tester, surfacing “23 actionable, high-quality findings.”&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>But is this a sustainable model for introducing AI agents to the security process? And how do we deal with the inevitable friction between a model meant to find exploits and the guardrails telling it to do no harm?&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>This week, host Matt Kosinski and panelists Claire Nuñez, Dave McGinnis and Kimmie Farrington discuss the wisdom and folly of letting an AI agent pen test your system.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Plus: We dig into Bruce Schneier’s thoughts on “security in the age of instant software” and a report from&nbsp;CipherCue&nbsp;that ransomware is growing three times faster than security spending.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>All that and&nbsp;more&nbsp;on&nbsp;<em>Security Intelligence</em>.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Segments:&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 – Intro&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>1:07 --&nbsp;OpenClaw&nbsp;as a pen tester&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>14:23 -- Cybersecurity for instant software&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>25:36 -- Ransomware outpaces security spending&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><em>The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the views of IBM or any other organization or entity.</em>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em>Learn more about how enterprises confront agentic attacks&nbsp;</em></strong>→&nbsp;<a href="https://newsroom.ibm.com/2026-04-15-ibm-announces-new-cybersecurity-measures-to-help-enterprises-confront-agentic-attacks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>https://newsroom.ibm.com/2026-04-15-ibm-announces-new-cybersecurity-measures-to-help-enterprises-confront-agentic-attacks</em></a>&nbsp;</p><p><strong><em>Follow the Security Intelligence podcast on your preferred platform&nbsp; </em></strong>→&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ibm.com/think/podcasts/security-intelligence" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>https://www.ibm.com/think/podcasts/security-intelligence</em></a>&nbsp;</p><p><br></p>