MUF #10 If AI Kills Work, What’s Left? A Conversation with Tech Visionary Ilja Laurs
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This is a podcast episode titled, MUF #10 If AI Kills Work, What’s Left? A Conversation with Tech Visionary Ilja Laurs. The summary for this episode is: <p>Welcome to another unfiltered episode where I’m joined by my long-time friend and tech visionary, Ilja Laurs. Ilja is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and a public figure who has been shaping the technology landscape for over two decades. He was recognized by the World Economic Forum, CNBC, and The Wall Street Journal for his contributions to technology and the mobile internet ecosystem.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we're not just scratching the surface; we're diving headfirst into the most pressing questions of our time. We explore Ilja's incredible journey building GetJar, one of the world's first and largest app stores before the Apple App Store and Google play, which scaled to tens of millions of users. Then, we go deep into the future of work and the shocking reality that AI is targeting high-level, college-educated jobs—not the low-level ones we all expected. If you think your job is safe and that your Ivy-league MBA will save you, think again!</p><p><br></p><p>We also debate whether humanity is on a collision course with a "people-less economy" where many of us move away from traditional jobs to instead rely on universal basic income while robots and AI do most of the work we used to do. And for my European listeners, Ilja delivers a harsh reality check: he fears Europe is heading down a path toward the same kind of economic collapse seen in the Soviet Union in the 1990's.</p><p><br></p><p>This is a conversation that will challenge everything you believe about our future, education, society and government. </p>
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I had the privilege of sitting down with Ilja Laurs, a true pioneer in the tech world. Ilja is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and public figure who has been at the forefront of innovation for over 20 years. He is the founder and leader of the Nextury Group, where he invests in startups and billion-dollar technology firms.
During our conversation, we explore some of the most profound shifts happening in our society, including:
- The story of GetJar: How a small team of "five-ish guys" in Lithuania built one of the world's first app stores and briefly achieved a meteoric success.
- The paradox of work: Why we're seeing the disappearance of college-degree jobs while demand for low-level jobs is actually increasing.
- A people-less economy: The controversial idea that machines will soon produce all goods and services, freeing humans from the need to work for a living.
- The decline of Europe: Ilja's stark prediction that Europe's over-regulation and declining productivity could lead to a collapse, much like the Soviet Union.
- The role of AI in government: We wrap up by discussing whether AI can help create a more values-based society, rather than one driven by the whims of a majority.
Today's Host

Patrick Mork
|Chief Storyteller
Today's Guests

Ilja Laurs
|Founder of Nextury Group | Founder of GetJar | Serial Entrepreneur | Investor | Public Figure
Ilja Laurs is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and public figure who has been shaping the technology landscape for over two decades. He is the founder and leader of the Nextury Group in Lithuania, where he invests in startups and technology firms. He has been recognized by top-tier organizations like the World Economic Forum, CNBC, and The Wall Street Journal for his immense contributions to the world of technology.
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