We're Not Meant to do Life Alone with Jen Edds
We're Not Meant to do Life Alone with Jen Edds
In this episode, Jen Edds joins Rebecca to discuss the changes going on in Jen's life, and business. She introduces us to her new podcast UkuDaily Dispatch, which she describes as schoolhouse rock meets inspiration and intention. Tune in and learn Jen's backstory of how she got to making this podcast.
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Jen EddsHead Broad in Charge at The Brassy Broadcasting Company
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: singing. Hello. This is Rebecca Fleetwood Hession, host of the Baddest Women's Council podcast, and I'm super glad that you're here. Today, we have a very special guest, my personal fairy pod mother, the original starter of the Badass Women's Council podcast, coach, friend, friend of the show. Jen Edds is here, everybody, and the crowd goes wild.
Jen Edds: Yay. Hi.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Hi, how are you?
Jen Edds: I'm fantastic. I'm very excited to be here today.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Same. Same. So you have changes that have come about in your life and business, and we're going to talk about not just what's happening with those, but how that transition came to be, because I got to be a little part of that transition.
Jen Edds: Yes, you did.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So rather than just lead people on for another 30 minutes, tell them what you're launching, and then we'll tell them the backstory of how you got there.
Jen Edds: Okay. I am launching a brand new podcast. It goes live on May 1st, and it's called the UkuDaily Dispatch. The premise of the podcast, it's almost like schoolhouse rock meets inspiration and intention. Because I'm a musician, which is part of my backstory, and I've always wanted to be a songwriter, but I haven't necessarily always committed to the actual practice of writing songs. And with this, I'm sitting down and committing to write something every day. Some days, it's okay. Some days it's like," Eh," but it's done. I showed up and I did the work. Then the goal is that for the next year, 365 days in a row, I will publish this two to three minutes podcast daily dispatch duty of some little inspirational song. That's the premise.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I love it so much. As soon as you shared it with me, it just hit my heart. Nothing screams you more. I mean, who didn't just love schoolhouse rock? When you describe it that way, I'm like," Oh, I'm so in. I'm so in." I think the part of this story that I love the most is the evolution of you finding this chapter of your story, because you were the coach, the consultant, the person that helped me launch this podcast, and that has been your business for a minute. But you started to realize it wasn't what it was supposed to be in this season.
Jen Edds: Well, and that is still my business and very much a big part of my business. The other thing that this podcast forces me to do is to get back into the trenches. And because then I had to walk myself back through all of the process that I walk my clients through. What is the purpose? What is the premise? What do I really want? What do I want out of this for me, and what do I want out of this for my listener? Is there enough overlap there that it makes sense to do this?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So two things from my experience in helping you with some of this is one, what you're doing now is so aligned with your unique gifts, talents, and abilities. Like you said, the song writing, the inspiration, it literally oozes who you are.
Jen Edds: It does.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Right? The second thing that I think is really important about this is even though you've been doing this work for others quite successfully for some time, you can't do this shit for yourself.
Jen Edds: It's hard.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It's hard. I did an episode, oh gosh, a couple of days ago that's going to come out here shortly, and this was the same topic. We can't really see ourselves authentically. It takes somebody else to hold up the mirror and help you see you. Then you're like," Oh, when you can reflect it back to me, that makes a lot more sense." That's a little bit of the journey that you and I went on together, where we were recording an episode where I was attempting to walk you through your own process. What happened?
Jen Edds: Well, you did a phenomenal job walking me through my process. The problem was I didn't have the answer because I didn't have that strong enough why that," I'm going to do this come hell or high water, and I know people think it sounds like a crazy idea," because that's a lot of work. I mean, making a podcast, even if it's a three minute podcast, still to show up and do the writing and then do the recording and then putting everything together and getting it out. It's still a huge commitment, but I'm on fire about this. I don't know what the end game is with this. I don't know what's going to happen. I just know I'm being called to do this. So this is what I'm doing.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: That's the whole thing, is just showing up. Just showing up. When you get that call, show up. I had a client reach out to me this past week. She'd found me online and she has an idea she wants to bring into the world. She said," I've been thinking about it for maybe years." She said," I just keep getting stuck and I'm not moving it forward, but I can't stop thinking about it." I said the same thing. I'm like," It's really hard to do this stuff on your own."
Jen Edds: It is.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It takes somebody to help pull it out, which is part of the process that you and I went through, when you recognize that you weren't as called to do some of the work that you've been doing previously. So this whole idea of we're not meant to do life alone, I think is a great message for this episode as well.
Jen Edds: Truly.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah. Yeah. So after we talked that day, I didn't hear from you for a while. You were just processing it and I reached out to you and I'm like," Dude, is the episode coming out? What are we...?" And you're like," Nope, nope. We're not publishing that thing. Nope." And I was like," Okay, keep me posted." So tell us about the process. When you had the realization, then what happened? You had the realization," Oh, I'm not really as called to do this thing." Then what?
Jen Edds: Then it just sat there doing nothing. I mean, I don't know. I would have to go back and look to tell you when the last episode of the Brassy Broadcast was that I published. It's so funny because I'm already having these giant light bulb realizations just showing up and doing the work. I mean, it hasn't even hit the world yet, really other than the preview episode, but what I've found, and it's funny too, because I was watching a friend's Instagram story today and she's into human design and I went and did the chart and I'm a manifesting generator. What that means... I don't really know anything about this other than what the chart says and some things that I've heard, but in order for me to create, I need to be doing it in response to something. For me to write these songs every day, I know that I need... It's not just going to pop into my head. There's got to be some kind of trigger that gets that response for me. So really trying to figure out what that is on a daily basis has been interesting to chase and see what that's all about and see what my process is, because one of the biggest fears I had was," What if I can't call the creativity? What if it doesn't show up for a few days? Then what do I do with my podcast?"
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Girl, as a writer, I feel you.
Jen Edds: Yeah. Exactly.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Because there are times you can block the calendar for the time and then nothing shows up in your mind, nothing, the words hit the page. But I think what's different about this approach that you have is because of the consistency of it, to me, the more I write, the more consistently my ideas show up.
Jen Edds: Yes.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It's hard to turn it off and on for long periods of time. I think creativity flows better if it flows.
Jen Edds: Right. I just needed to prime the pump. And now it's coming, and I mean, that's the difference between what I did with the Brassy Broadcast, because I didn't necessarily know," Oh, I work in podcasting. I should have a podcast." Right? But I didn't want to talk about podcasting. There's a lot of people already doing that and they are doing a phenomenal job of it. It goes back to what you always say about unique gifts and talents. How can I use what I have? Then when it hit me, it was like," Oh duh, why am I not doing this already?"
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I went through the same evolution when I started my business. I had come out of a corporate firm where I did a lot of work with execution and scoreboards and dashboards and large corporations and I was good at it, and I thought that I was supposed to keep doing that because I'd been good at it. But it really wasn't what was lighting my heart on fire. It took me a little bit to let go of it because I thought that's what gave me credibility. I thought that's what people thought that I was smart because I did that stuff, and what would it look like if I pivoted? The minute I made the decision to just let that stuff go and go the direction I'm in now, like you experienced, the flood gates just opened. The ideas and the excitement and that inner why is just a big deal.
Jen Edds: Well, and I feel like ultimately, this podcast is going to give me way more credibility because I'm starting it from scratch. The other component of this is that I started a YouTube channel for it. So in addition to the audio, I'm also recording video, and then that's going up on the YouTube channel because that's where people are going to look for inspiration and mantras and affirmations and all that stuff. Not that this sounds like super woo, woo and all of that, even though there's a component of that to it. I don't know. It's been interesting to figure out what is my voice in that and how do I write about how I experience gratitude and wanting to put something good out into the world? Or how do I voice my desire to not be a hateful little troll for the day? Because that's one of the songs I wrote.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I love that.
Jen Edds: That's the head space I was in. I think as a writer, sometimes you just write what you need to hear and or what you need to process.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Well, that's what I loved most about it is because it is a little three minute episode and it's daily. It really can be response to maybe something that happened yesterday. Whether it was," I had nothing yesterday, or I got inspired yesterday, or there was a troll yesterday," I like that real time approach to it that to me... I use that term too. I say everything can't be airy fairy woo, but to me, the most powerful catalyst for my growth and success has come from what many would call airy fairy woo.
Jen Edds: Right.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Which is I sit down every morning with my I am statements. I ground myself in Bible and mantras and get my mind right.
Jen Edds: You have to.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: That's the key to success in my experience.
Jen Edds: It is. It is.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah. So call it whatever you want. It's going to make me and use some money. It's fine.
Jen Edds: That's right.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So one of the other things, I think that's important about this for everybody and you and I both experienced this is other people are doing similar things like us in coaching and in business, but we have a unique audience. We're not for everyone. So there's room in this world for lots of people doing similar things, because there are billions of people on the planet. Getting comfortable that the people who are supposed to hear your message will find you when you show up as you. I always talk about that. We each have a unique piece of the puzzle and the only way we know how to find each other is if we allow ourselves to be the unique piece of the puzzle, right?
Jen Edds: Yes.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: You showing up with your UkuDaily, which we'll talk about that term in a minute, was inspiring to me because you started writing music and playing for your show notes on your other podcast. To me, that was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. It was like," That's real Jen. That's the Jen I know and love." I think this daily affirmation and daily message that you put out in that way is going to bring so many of the people that need to hear what you have to say in that way.
Jen Edds: Mm- hmm( affirmative). Well, the other thing too, is as someone that coaches people to show up to their own podcast as they're starting them and really connect to what that inner voice is and how they're going to present themselves and it needs to be their true selves or people see right through that. How can I coach somebody on that if I'm not doing that consistently myself? So this is another piece of that," Oh, this is going to make me such a better coach."
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Amen. Amen. So tell us about the title because it's a fun title. Tell us about how you got to and why it's named what it is. Give us the history.
Jen Edds: The title of the podcast is called The UkuDaily Dispatch. So I am playing my ukulele and people are like," Jen, why are you calling it an ukulele? It's an ukulele because we're in Indiana." Well, in Hawaii, it's actually called an ukulele, and I have a friend who's Hawaiian, and I'd call it a ukulele, and she's like,"Oh, if you're going to play it, you need to learn how to say it."
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Another aspect of authenticity.
Jen Edds: Exactly. I love this instrument so much. That's what it's called. That's the respect that I'm going to give it because it brings me so much joy. I mean, I could do a guitar podcast. I could do a mandolin podcast and I love playing those things, but there's something about when you pick up a little ukulele. I don't know if it's because it sounds like Hawaii and you're just immediately transported to palm trees and umbrella drinks and just the ocean and super chill. That was one of the great joys getting me through the pandemic, because we'd been to Hawaii back in February, and then the world's shut down in March, but I had this beautiful instrument. I mean, I had some before that, but I'd never had one actually built in Hawaii. The sound of it is... I don't know. It has just been a life- changing thing for me.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: That's what you will bring to your audience because it's so stirred spiritually in you, right? So you're going to ooze that. When I hear that kind of music, I always think of gathering. I think of people coming together and singing songs and just wanting to lean in and participate. So I'd love that vibe that it gives. I've always watched your singing show notes.
Jen Edds: Well, and it was more just a way for me to promote the episode because I can make an Instagram post and I could do this and I could do that. All of those things that we do to promote our podcast, but going back to how can I most authentically promote it in my voice? Well, it's going to be with an instrument and writing some silly little song to go along with it.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I love it. What kind of topics should we expect so far? I know you've already put some together, because I've seen you posting that you've had some things already in the... I can't find words today. I'm not even going to apologize.
Jen Edds: They're in the can, Rebecca.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: They're in the can, and that's it.
Jen Edds: They're in the can. Yeah.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I'm like," What's happening with my words." So what kind of topics are showing up so far?
Jen Edds: Well, so we've had the," I will not be a hateful little troll today." We've also had the one that I wrote this morning. I'll send it to you later. It's called," I'm not everyone's cup of tea, and I don't take it personally."
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Preach.
Jen Edds: That came from The Four Agreements.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Oh, the book.
Jen Edds: Yeah, the book. I mean, some of them are affirmations from books I've read or things I've seen online, and what I'm finding now more though, is it's less about incorporating the actual affirmation, but more into the vibe and how does it become a little refrain or a little chorus that hopefully get stuck in your head all day long.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yes. Oh my gosh. I love that so much. The topic of I'm not everybody's cup of tea is one that I absolutely resonate and love so much. I was thinking about it last week. I was on a Zoom call with a prospect who found me on a Google search. So she doesn't know me. Here I am. I think that day, like today, I would've gotten Nirvana on today.
Jen Edds: Nice.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I think, I don't know what rocker tee I had on that day and tattoos and I thought," How refreshing that I can show up as me?" Because there was a long time in my life where I would show up in my pencil skirt suit to a corporate meeting and I'm really smart and I do amazing work. I'm really comfortable saying that out loud now, but there was a part of me that hid behind a lot of corporate armor to make sure I could fake it until I made it or something. Now just to show up and believe with that prospect that if I was meant to be for her, that it would show up in that conversation and I didn't have to dress to impress or try to fake it until I make it. I'm just here and the right people that need me will find me. I think what's so beautiful about what you're putting out there too.
Jen Edds: I think, yeah. I agree. They will find me. If they like me, great, if not, they can go onto the next video.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah.
Jen Edds: It's that easy.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It's that's easy.
Jen Edds: I need to shout out. So I've had this little test crew of folks holding me accountable, a couple of which you know. So Alex and Nikki, so shout out to them for letting me send these songs to them. Like Nikki, I've sent them every day.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: This is so important to have crosstalk.
Jen Edds: I've been known to get a text with," Tick tock."
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Where's your stuff?
Jen Edds: Where is it?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So there's a couple aspects of that. So Alex, Perry and Nicole Bush, shout out. Thank you for being an inspired part of both of our communities.
Jen Edds: Really.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Having those kinds of people that love you so much they want to see you successful, and they're willing to say," Tick tock, where's the episode today because you said you were going to do it?" That's a beautiful gift.
Jen Edds: It is. I would not be this far without the two of them. There's no doubt.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I love that.
Jen Edds: Because they love you, they'll give you both affirmation." This was really good. Here's what I loved about it, and hey, maybe you want to try this. What do you think about that?"
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah.
Jen Edds: Yeah.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Those are good people.
Jen Edds: Yeah, they are.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: What are some of the things you've heard from them so far?
Jen Edds: That somehow, I randomly just managed to get," Oh yeah. I needed to hear that today."
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I knew that's what you were going to say.
Jen Edds: Which I think that's the ultimate compliment.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It is. To me, that's what I love about what you're doing, because one of the many things I love about what you're doing, because you're letting the inspiration show up when it shows up. I know you and I went through this when I started my podcast, where you think you have to have everything all figured out. Like," How many seasons? What are the topics and blah, blah, blah?" And that was exhausting to me because I could randomly meet somebody in an airport and think," Oh my gosh, you'd make a great podcast guest." But if I didn't have it scheduled a certain way and they didn't fit into the plan and the season, then it threw me off and then I finally threw all that stuff out the window and I was like," I'm just going to go with what I'm inspired by in the moment." That's what happened with this. We were on a session together that I was leading about personal brand, and you shared that this was coming up and I was like," Oh my gosh, we got a podcast about it." When I get that feedback, that's my biggest compliment too. Is if you just do what's on your heart, somebody needs to hear it.
Jen Edds: Exactly. You can find me on YouTube, on The UkuDaily Dispatch channel. It's got its own channel.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Its own channel.
Jen Edds: You can also follow the podcast, if that's how you prefer to receive it in all of the podcast places. So Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcast, Audible, wherever you listen to podcasts.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: All the places.
Jen Edds: All the places. Yes.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Good. So we'll put the link for that in all of the show note stuff. Do you think maybe you have an episode that we could just slide into this podcast so they could get a little taste?
Jen Edds: I will send it to you. Yes.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Since it's three minutes, we could just tuck it in here, and then people will be like," Oh, I want more of that.
Jen Edds: Okay. Yeah.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: We'll give them a little sampler.
Jen Edds: I like it. That's a brilliant idea.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Like when you go to the candy store and they've got those little pieces of candy on the top and you're like," Oh, I don't think I need anything." And then you have one little bite and you're like," Oh hell, give me a pound."
Jen Edds: Mm- hmm( affirmative). Yeah.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: That's what I mean.
Jen Edds: Hello friend. Welcome or welcome back to The UkuDaily Dispatch, your daily dose of intention and inspiration delivered in a quick song to get you singing and grooving all day long. I'm Jen Edds, and I am so happy that you're here. Today's dispatch duty is a reminder that a lot of times we have the option of saying no to things that we feel like suck the life out of us or are just a complete waste of time. But nobody wants to be mean, right? I get it, and saying no is actually a practice. So I wrote a song to help us with that. It goes like this. singing. Let's do it again. We'll do it louder this time for the people in the back. singing. I know friends it's harder than it sounds. Shouldn't be that difficult to put two little letters together, N- O. I mean, they're even right next to each other in the alphabet, but I know that it's a challenge. If you know someone else that has a hard time saying no to things that absolutely suck the life out of them because they don't want to be mean, make sure you share this video with them. If you're watching it on YouTube, subscribe to my YouTube channel if you haven't already. And if you're listening in your favorite podcasting app, make sure you share the link. I would love to hear from you. I'm always hanging out on Instagram @ brassybroadjen. Take a screenshot of your favorite episode, share it and tag me or send me a direct message. I love to hear what episodes and messages are resonating with you. Thanks for listening. Now get out in the world and do good. The UkuDaily Dispatch is a production of the Brassy Broadcasting Company.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I like it. I like you. I like what you're doing in inaudible.
Jen Edds: I like you too and I'm so happy that I got to come back and be on the podcast.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Oh my gosh. The fairy pod mother is always welcome on the podcast.
Jen Edds: Thank you so much.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Thanks for being here, Jen. You're awesome. singing.