Remember to Enjoy Your Journey with Kelsea Koenreich

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This is a podcast episode titled, Remember to Enjoy Your Journey with Kelsea Koenreich. The summary for this episode is: <p>Rebecca's vibe attracts a new member of her tribe this week when she sits down with Kelsea Koenreich. Kelsea is candid about her past and the struggles she faced as a young adult. Kelsea's willingness to share and be vulnerable is what got her where she is today as a successful lifestyle mentor. Her triumph over the years will surely inspire many that share her story. This week is all about creativity, openness, and zooming out.</p><p><br></p><p>Don't forget to sign up for Rebecca's Badass Masterclass where you will hear, share, and meet other Badass Overachieving Women at the website below.</p><p></p>
You might not be for everyone.
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Align your life.
01:54 MIN
Achieve, zoom out, repeat.
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Creativity doesn't have an expiration date.
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Joy in the journey.
01:29 MIN
Celebrate yourself.
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Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: (Singing). Hey, this is Rebecca Fleetwood Hession, host of the Badass Womens Council Podcast. We are here for reflection and connection for the high- achieving badass woman like you. And, I'm so glad you're here. And, you might as well go ahead and hit the subscribe button. So, you don't miss any future episodes just seems like the right thing to do. Don't you think?( Singing). If there's one thing I've learned, it's when someone says," You really should meet..." Fill in the blank of name of person." You really should meet them." There's this phenomenon that when we show up as ourselves, the people that we need in our lives will show up and be attracted to what we're putting out. What's the saying of the post," Your vibe attracts your tribe." Well, today's episode with Kelsea is going to be a complete illustration of this. It's so fun to listen to us discover each other's commonalities, and she's a mindset coach. So, this is a double dose of coaching for you today. There's some rich nuggets in here about being yourself, not getting trapped in your own life, trying new things, just a fun conversation with an amazing woman, who I am so thrilled was brought into my life. Here we go.( Singing). Hey Kelsea, how's it going?

Kelsea Koenreich: Good. How are you doing?

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I'm super good. I love that you're here today, because someone introduced us and I can't even remember who it was. I'm going to have to go back in the intro and add it later. But anytime somebody says," Hey, you should have her on your podcast," and it's a somebody that's already listening to me, I pay attention to that. So, yay. And you said," Yes." Thank you for-

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. Yeah, no, thanks for having me. Like I said, I love just talking to people, especially people that have similar mindsets and do similar things, because I've been on some interviews and stuff to where I'm like," Oh my gosh, we could talk forever," to where like the before and after recording is just so long, because it's like," Yes, I see it too and you see too," so its nice to be on that level.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Absolutely. And, to be the kind of high- achieving women that appreciate other women that do similar work. That's, I think what I've loved most about being in this space of a coach, is the abundance that is there. It's not competitive at all. It's like," Let's get together and just jam and talk about this stuff that we love." So, it's good stuff.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. You're so right. Like just like releasing that competitive, there's only so much space. And like you said, the abundance of really knowing, and I think that's a good point because there's a difference in like, you can tell the people like... I've been in the coaching industry for 10, it'll be 10 years this year. And so, seeing the people come and go, that you can tell the heartfelt leaders and the people who are out of integrity with themselves. And, the people who are heartfelt leaders, since they are leading with heart, and since they want change, and since they want to make people's lives better, they want to welcome other people that want to do the same work.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Absolutely. Because if you look at our profiles, we do very similar... We both have an online community. We both do coaching for both business and life and career. We literally do almost the same thing.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: But, we both believe that there are infinite opportunities and the more people that's do that are doing this kind of work, the better we all are. So, inaudible.

Kelsea Koenreich: Mm- hmm(affirmative).

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I dig that.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah.

Kelsea Koenreich: And truthfully, and I'm sure you feel the same way, I want my clients to want me. The timing and the matches of people, and the clients that we work with are meant for us. So it's like-

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah.

Kelsea Koenreich: ...we could do the same thing, but somebody could come to you and hear your story and be like," That's my person." And be like," Yeah, I'm not really feeling Kelsea." You know what I mean? But, that's what it's about, if they feel that connection, they're going to get better results. So it's like, we just do our thing, do good work, then the people that are supposed to be with us, come to us

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And, getting comfortable with we're not for everybody. I think that's the hard part for some people, is when they go to market, they're trying to market to everybody. No matter what you do, whether it's coaching or something else, and I'm always reminding my clients," It's okay not to be for everyone." In fact, that's the way it's supposed to be. If you think you're for everyone, you're for no one. Because, if you're trying to adapt and shift your own perspective to meet everybody's needs. Nope.

Kelsea Koenreich: That shit is exhausting.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Exhausting. It's not going to work.

Kelsea Koenreich: You can't.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Not going to work.

Kelsea Koenreich: And, you're so pulled out of alignment and authenticity with yourself.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Exactly.

Kelsea Koenreich: That it's like, you show up and you're like one person over here and you're one person over here. And it's like," What happened?" It feels so much easier to release and just be yourself. And again, like you attract what you're meant to attract because you're being yourself, versus like," Oh, I have to do this." And, this is like the putting in a box to where it's like," Oh, I'm a coach, so I have to sell this way, I have to launch this way, or I have to do my program like this." And I'm like," No, you don't.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: No, you don't. Exactly. In fact, whatever kind of unique creative idea that comes to your heart and your soul is what you should be doing, not what everybody else is doing. And, I think in a corporate sense, I call it the difference but.... What we're talking about, I call the difference between striving and thriving. So, the word strive means battle and conflict. And to me, when you're out of alignment with your true self, and trying to do work either for the promotion or the money or because somebody said you were good at it, whatever the reasons, when you're working against how you are naturally wired, that striving. And, you can be successful to a point, but it has a cost. You're exhausted from it. It's like you go to work every day and it's just like you're pounding your head against a wall. But thriving says," I'm going to show up as me, I'm going to bring my unique gifts and talents and I'm going to do good work." And that's... You're still going to be tired, I mean, we're high achievers. Come on. I mean, we're going to work ourselves crazy because we like too, but it's a big difference falling in bed at the end of the day from thriving versus striving. And, I think we have been sold this idea, especially as high achieving women, that we have to constantly prove ourselves. And that has meant, make yourselves be what other people need you to be.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yes.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And, its bullshit.

Kelsea Koenreich: It is. It's so good. I love everything that you're saying, you are my people, for sure. crosstalk Yeah. It's so true. It's like, we... But, if you think about the way that we're programmed and going back to how we all start out, like we start out with this idea that, okay, we apply for a job, we meet this description; and so therefore, those are the things that we do. That is who we become. And so, with that wiring, with those stories, with that programming, we carry that on. And then, we're wonder like," Why do I not feel fulfilled?"" Why do I feel trapped in my own life?" And it's like, I love the idea of like the striving versus thriving, because you're striving to be something that has pulled you so far away from what you naturally are. And, if people would just understand that even within the parameters of a job that, as not an entrepreneur, not your own company, you still have more freedom than you realize.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Absolutely. And, it's okay to shift and adjust because sometimes our lives shift and adjust, the season changes. I call it, you're writing a new chapter in your story, and maybe the job that you've been wildly successful in for a period of time, no longer fits who you are today. And, I see so many people. And, I almost did it, where you just stay because you're making a lot of money, and you've been successful. And, why would I leave now? And sometimes, it's the best thing that you can do, and get into that thing that is more aligned with the season that you're in and the chapter that you're supposed to be in. I know you and I have talked just briefly before we logged on about those boxes that are kind of company corporate boxes that we try to fit in, either it's a title, or an industry or something. And, the more we can free ourselves from those constraints, I think that's when you find who you're really supposed to be.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah, you're so right. Because, it's removing barriers, it's knocking down those walls. Like I said to a client this week, I was like," You've been in this place to where you're like..." I think she said that," She lives in New York." And I'm like," You've been in this place, you're surrounded by all these tall buildings, really fucken tall buildings."" And so now, we have to knock some of the buildings down and now that we've knocked them down, like you can see the sun again."

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yes.

Kelsea Koenreich: You know?

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yes. And, we build those constraints, and those walls and those buildings around ourselves. We think somebody else is doing it, but we have total control over our mindset. I similarly had a client yesterday where she's in crew transition. And, she's a bad- ass, she's got wicked skills. And, she had been looking based on the role that she'd had, an executive in marketing. She had been in this industry, and she was kind of looking in that space. I'm like," Let's just not think about that for a minute."" Let's just look at who you are." And, I walked her through an exercise I do to identify your unique gifts, talents and abilities. And we looked at, her leadership capability could be applied anywhere. She could start her own thing. She could go to any industry. And, we talked about how do you go and market yourself, based on yourself, not the confines of your last job or your last industry. And, I think that's a practice that anybody could walk away from this conversation and go," Oh wait, hold on."" Who am I, and how could I apply that differently?"

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. It's so true. I really, I love that. I love that. I feel so grateful to do this kind of work and that we get to help people see that, because it's really hard. It's like, you're breaking so many rules and having to handle all the old stories. Because it's like, the generations before us, there was entrepreneurism, the freedom, and going in and like selling yourself and having people within corporate industries create a job title, that was not a thing.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Right.

Kelsea Koenreich: And so, now we have the ability to really do that. And so, it's so cool because you just, by basing it, like you said on who you are, and what do you love to do, and what would... I talk a lot about, what would allow more freedom, more fun, more play? And, how having more creativity and actually having fun and play in your life, builds your business and your success. Because people are like,"Well, that's not productive." Especially as high achievers, I'm like sitting there, spent so many years to where I'm like," I can't watch TV, because watching TV is not productive."" I can't do that, that's for me." It's like, if I'm not working, but I'm not helping people. And then it's like," Kelsea, come on."

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Because even people like us who do this work, we still have to battle that mindset. It's deep, it's ingrained. I was working with a girl yesterday, a woman, girl, whatever. And, she's vice president of talent development, she's got this big job and she is the most artistic, creative soul you've ever met. And I mean, the way she dresses, the way she shows up. And, we went through kind of her history, and her story, and what she has been told by people who loved her. But, the unintentional consequence was she started to believe bullshit stories, is that creativity, is it profitable or is it going to make you money? And being an artist, there's the whole starving artist thing is just, we've got to break that cycle. Because, art comes in so many different forms. It's not just painting and music, it can be applied in so many beautiful ways. Our brains are meant to be artistic and creative, to be happy and build.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yes. Have you ever read Big Magic?

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yes.

Kelsea Koenreich: Such a great book.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Such a great book.

Kelsea Koenreich: But, it's so true. It's so true. And the thing is, is that, we think that, this is another thing I've been talking a lot about recently, is we're so zoomed in to where we are. So as high achieving women, we want to make an impact. And so we're like," Okay, I need to be in it, I need to be doing it." And so, we forget that everything ripples out and sometimes we have to zoom out. We have to zoom out and we have to look at like what those actual ripples are. And then, we have to think about what actually allows us to make those ripples. And, those things are recovery, and rest, and creativity, and finding an actual enjoyment of things in your life to where you get to show up. Like, the reason why I can show up, and coach clients very energetically and be passionate about my work, is because I don't take 900 clients.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I literally used the term zoom out when I'm working with my clients too. This is the other thing I love is-

Kelsea Koenreich: Yes.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: know something is meant to be in the world, because if a lot of people are saying it, then it matters and God wants us to say more of it. So, we get so maniacally focused on the details. The zoom out piece is perspective, and context and bigger picture. Like, that's where the real answers for our heart lie. Not in the next project or email.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah. inaudible.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. It's crosstalk so right. And, there's the whole piece of it too, like of the disconnection with self. We get so trapped in our day- to- day that it's like... I don't know if you... I'm sure you talk about this with clients, but like revisiting the inner child, like what did you use to do for fun? What was the thing that you sat in your room and had no concept of what time it was, where you were, you were just in it, why don't you do that stuff anymore?

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: My clients are laughing right now because we do the, what was 14 year old you doing? Because 14 year old you, started to have freedom of choice. You're starting to get some free will at 14. You're making some of your own decisions, not just following what mom, and dad and others said. And one of my clients, she's a dancer. She'd even danced professionally for a while. And, after we started working together, she went back to the dance studio and just found joy in dancing again. And, that has an ripple effect and impact on your work, when you show up with more joy. But, tying back to something that we said earlier, that's a part of this conversation, that's kind of in the root cause of how we got to this place of being maniacally focused. I think back before the internet, when people were choosing what they wanted to do. Their choices were literally based on the four or five careers that they knew about. They knew what their parents did. They knew there were teachers, they knew there were doctors and maybe what a neighbor or an aunt did. And so, it's fascinating to me, out of the thousands of women that I've asked the question, how did you choose your career right out of school? Whether you went to college or you went to... How did you choose? And the majority, I would say more than 80%, it's based on four or five careers that they knew about. And so, you think about how that boxed us in from the beginning that we got on this trajectory of being in a career where somebody well- intentioned said," Well, you can make money here."" You can support yourself here."" You can have a stable life here." So, we made these decisions based on somebody else's story, not ours. And, I think that's where we got stuck in this place of thinking that it has to be in a box, somebody else's box and I'm ready to blow those boxes up.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. That's what I say. I'm like burn those bitches to the ground.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah.

Kelsea Koenreich: Let's just light them on fire. Yeah. It's so interesting to me, because there's a couple of things that you said that I want to touch on. And, the first piece is what you were just saying, I feel really fortunate because my path has been pretty rocky. So, I had a pretty rough history, basically I hit rock bottom after being arrested three times. I had drug and alcohol issues, and that was kind of like what spiraled into where my life is now. But prior to that, even the jobs that I did, I did all, retail, bartending, those kinds of things. I was very fortunate. I never had pressure even to go to college, like my parents didn't tell me to go to college. And, I was having a conversation with my dad the other day. My mom's always been in real estate, so she's pretty much always worked for herself. And then, my dad was telling me he had a newspaper route when he was in middle school. And then, he started a lawn company at 12. And, I didn't even know these things. I knew my mom being in real estate. But it's so cool, because I think I'm fortunate because like you said, you don't realize how much it plays a role because you're making choices based off what you know. And, I think that because I've had that, like entrepreneurialism built into me, even in the jobs where I was, working for hourly or whatever. I was always like," But, what can I do right on the other side of this?"" How can I push this a little bit further?" And so, it's now when I'm like teaching clients about this, I'm like," Oh no, no, no, no, yeah, I get that, that's like your job, but actually delegate that." And then, I had this girl that was an assistant and she was like," All the projects that we're doing are so exciting." I'm like," Are you speaking up in the meetings, saying that you have ideas?" Long story short, she started speaking up in the meetings, like actually said that she wanted to be a part of these things. They created a whole new role for her, gave her a raise, hired an assistant for her. I'm like," So it's just, you don't know what you can create."

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Absolutely. And the speaking up part. Oh my gosh. It's so, so important. And so many struggle with, can I, should I? The rules that we put on ourselves to keep ourselves constrained, I love that story. I have a friend that's similar. She was an EA, executive assistant for years and amazing at it. And now, she's the COO of an organization and starting her own thing at the same time, because the skillset of being an executive assistant is bad- ass.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yes.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: If you can do that for somebody else, you can do amazing things.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yes. Because you're in it, you're seeing all the stuff. So, it's just like, it all is in seeing your value and really grasping the fact that it's like," Oh, if they can do it, I can do it." And, I think this kind of touches on another point that you said about like, when you go with clients and you ask them about like," What was your 14 year old self doing?" And, even you saying that question, I was like... Because when I was 14, I was drinking, I was doing drugs. I was abusing my body, like very sexually active. I was making choices. But, everybody has those different things. And, even within that, even in all those choices that I'm like," No thank on those hobbies at this point."

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Check that off the list.

Kelsea Koenreich: But it's like- Yeah. It's like, even back to that, my heart has always been in music. I love to sing and I love... Music changes my moods. And now, my four year old son, music is his thing. Everybody on my Instagram knows, because we always... His name's Cameron, we always post him. He's on inaudible choosing songs, a variety of music.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Okay. My son's name is Cameron and he's a songwriter.

Kelsea Koenreich: Oh, what?

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: My mind just went...

Kelsea Koenreich: Oh my God.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I have chills all over my body right now.

Kelsea Koenreich: Okay.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: We just met today. The only thing crosstalk we've known about each other is a few things of it.

Kelsea Koenreich: Oh my God.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And, whoever said that we should meet, they were right.

Kelsea Koenreich: They knew.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Honest to goodness.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yo, this is just a good place for me to take a break and tell you, if you want to meet people like this, kindred spirits, people that just get you, well, I have a bad- ass masterclass, monthly subscription with a small group of amazing women, where we get together and have rich discussions around the topics of health, wealth and leadership. And, I think that you should probably check it out. Okay. There's a link in the show notes for you. Back to Kelsea. Same thing.

Kelsea Koenreich: Wow.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I was wild in my younger days too and music has... I would say the most interesting people I've met in my life, I met because of music, either at some music festival or some... Where it's that kindred spirit and yeah, music is a huge part of our lives here.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: That is-

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Actually the podcast music that I use is my son's original song. Which is nice for copyright, because I don't have to pay anybody for it.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah, inaudible for that.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So, how old is your Cameron?

Kelsea Koenreich: He's four. And then, I have a daughter that's two. Her name is Brooklyn.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Oh my gosh. Isn't that fascinating? Well, you're on the other side of it. Mine are 19 and going to be 23 in a couple weeks. So, I'm on the other side of the spectrum of that.

Kelsea Koenreich: Wow.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. Its-

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Its so fascinating, I'm just like... My mind is like... Inaudible.

Kelsea Koenreich: That's so crazy.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah.

Kelsea Koenreich: I love how the universe works for stuff like that.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Absolutely.

Kelsea Koenreich: But, music is... There's such an emotional attachment. And, I think when people do go back to maybe that age, if they were like me and it's like, well, I didn't really do sports. Anything I signed up for, I always quit, or my parents were divorced when I was two. So, there was a lot of... There was some childhood... There was all sorts of shit. And it's like, I think that some people go back and they're like," Well, I don't really know what I like, I don't really know." And, I think that it's like, you're never too old to play or start creating. I have my clients do exploration phases, where we commit to doing one new thing a month, whether that's like a class. I'm like," Go do something with your hands or move your body." I love trying different exercise classes. I'm like," Go to a pottery class or order a fucken friendship making bracelet off Amazon." Like, who cares?

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Right.

Kelsea Koenreich: Just explore, find yourself again.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Oh, I love that. I love that. So if you did that once a month, you would know more about yourself in just two or three months than you maybe had known your whole life.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. Because, how much stuff do we assume that we don't like, but we've never tried it. It's like kids, right. You put food in front of them and they're like," I don't like that," obviously toddlers, pinky toddlers." I don't like that." I'm like," You've never had it." So, in our house we have, you have to try, that's all. I don't... I have some very... This is another story for another day, but I'm very like... I was in fitness for a long time, so I refuse to give my children eating disorders. So, we're very free with food around here, but I'm like," We do have a, you have to try everything on your plate rule." You don't have to eat it all, I don't care if you spit it out, really. But, you do have to try stuff. And even with Cameron, like he's been in soccer, swimming. He's in ju- jitsu now. So, it's just like exposing them crosstalk to different things.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Just trying.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. So, it's the same thing for us adults. Like, just try. If you show up and you hate it, cool. At least you leave with that information.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I have a good friend, Lindsay Bucardo who's also a coach. And, she talks about when she was growing up, she wanted to try everything. And, the way that she determined what was for her, is what she liked to practice.

Kelsea Koenreich: Oh.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: She said, so if there were sports or music or anything, she was like," It wasn't about the game, or the recital or the big event, she paid attention to what are those things that she liked to practice." So, she tried every instrument. So, she took guitar lessons, and piano lessons and all the lessons. And, what she determined was, the drums were what she loved to practice. So, that's what she stuck with. She tried different sports, and the things that she liked to actually practice. And, I loved that perspective, because that taps into a deeper sense of doing the work and not just enjoying the event or the capstone of, oh, it culminates into this game or this recital. And, that's always stuck with me, that is, what do I like to practice?

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. The joy in the journey, which is really important for high achieving women too. Because we get so caught in the like," Oh, this project or this thing," and then you get there and instead of celebrating yourself, you're like," What's next?"

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Onto the next, oh my gosh, that drives me... My clients that do that, I'm like," Pause please, hold please."" Could we just maybe, six minutes worth of celebration, six, seven minutes worth of celebration."

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Please-

Kelsea Koenreich: Small acknowledgement. That's always... Celebration has always been really challenging for me. And, I think a lot of people, just because it feels so good to create and to help that, again, I have to really go back to zooming out and being like," Hey, you just did something really freaking awesome, like you did that, you created that, your brain did..."" You created, you brought up the idea from paper to real life." Like, it's hard though. It is really challenging.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And, I think what makes it hard to celebrate things that we've created is there's this weird juxtaposition between being yourself, which is bold, and sexy and fun with the vulnerability of being yourself. So, if I'm going to be myself, there's this risk that I take, that what if other people don't like who I am. And, if I'm more willing to emulate and copy what somebody else has done, it's not so vulnerable and it's not so out there. And, I think sometimes the celebration is difficult, because it feels like we're celebrating ourselves. And, where's the humility in that. Where's the...

Kelsea Koenreich: Mm- hmm(affirmative).

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And that's this weird, messed up hairball of stuff in our brains that when we don't have community of people who love and know us, we wouldn't do it for ourselves. So, I love when I create something and I put it out in the world, I'm not great at celebrating it for myself, but I have women in my life, people in my life, men too, that will say to me," Hey, I saw what you put out there." And, they know just what it took for me to put it out there, because it's mine and they'll pause me and go," Hey, I just want you to take a minute and really feel great about what you just did." And without those people, I wouldn't do it for myself.

Kelsea Koenreich: Mm- hmm(affirmative). That's such a great point. We all need that kind of support to just have people that do make us recognize it. And, that's really so much of what coaching is, is just being that mirror for people so they can see actually what they're capable of doing and who they are. And, I think it's so powerful. I'm very much like the coach that's very vulnerable, very open about my story. I tell my clients, I'm like," Sometimes I have one step in front of you, sometimes I just learn the shit that we're talking about last week."

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Exactly.

Kelsea Koenreich: I'm in it with you. Like, I vow and commit myself to forever growing, and always investing in myself and always having conversations like this that are enlightening to me, so then I can be better. I don't think there's a top of the mountain and it's just like, here we are, all done crosstalk.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: We have arrived.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah. Check us into destination, figured it all out. Like, no, not a thing.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yes. Yeah. There's so much fun in the hardness though, of learning things to where you're like," Okay, I see you, challenge accepted." This sucks, but challenge accepted.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Well, I think about this podcast was the first time in decades that I learned something new from scratch. And you think," Oh, well, I've been in sales, I've been a keynote speaker." I've been talking to people. I was in recruiting, so interviewing, I've been doing the things that build up to a podcast for decades, but the act of figuring out the equipment, and the how and who's going to edit and putting it out there, it was maddening. The day I got the box of all the equipment and I thought," Oh, I'm a smart person, I can figure this out." And so, I cleared the weekend, I sat down with my manuals of this new tech stuff. Girl, it was like it was written in Chinese. It was written for people that are sound production people. I couldn't read shit. And then, I felt like an idiot. And then I was like," Okay, what am I doing?"" This is ridiculous." And, I just had to work myself through it and it was hard. And, I kept thinking to myself," Why is this so hard?"" All I want to do is have conversations with people, why does this feel so hard?" But, it was that act of pushing through, and getting the information, and finding the resources and hiring the coaches that could help me, that made it so rewarding when I finally started putting episodes out. I was like," Oh, thank God I climbed that mountain." But, it wasn't easy. It was really difficult.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. But, that's the cool thing. You doing that and us doing all this stuff that we do, creating on the backend and all the swirling thoughts that go through our brain. We're laying in bed and we're like," Oh, I could do this." All of that, people don't see all that really goes into heart- led coaches.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: The head crosstalk trash that we get ourselves in and have to get through. My words for this year, 2021, of course, I have more than one word because I can't follow anybody's rules, but it's unreasonably bold. And, I've grown to this point. I'm only four or five years in of my business, so you're way ahead of me. But, I spent the first couple of years swirling around, doing it, quote unquote, right. And, the fear of what if I got it wrong? And, I had been successful in corporate, but now that I didn't have guardrails or safety nets, I thought it was going to be sexy and fun, but it was actually really, really difficult to put myself out there. So, to be four or five years past those thoughts and demons of head trash, to say to myself this year," No, those creative, unique ideas that you have are a thing." You need to pay attention to them. God probably planted them, because somebody needs them. And if you believe that the God who created you has infinite possibilities, then you should be willing to put yourself out there with infinite possibilities. And it, we're only what, 15 days into the year, but it has already changed my actions. It has changed my conversations. But, it's also uncomfortable. Because, I might have an idea that somebody else thinks is stupid and crap. And, I still have to be willing to go," Yeah, you might not like it, but I'm still going to do it."

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. You're so right. I love that. I love unreasonably bold. It's so... That's everything though, there's so much excitement, that it's immediately met with fear and it's like," Okay, I see you over there, fear, you just stay right there."" I'm just going to keep on trucking." Like I always say crosstalk to clients, I'm like," The only thing that's going to cure your anxiety is action, just move, you got to move." And, whether that's physically or mentally or both, you got to move. And, that's what has been so helpful in situations like you're talking about, to where it's like, I just like opened a membership today. I've never done a membership before. I'm like... Are you creating a membership? Do you have a membership?

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah. I crosstalk just launched membership, February 1st, the Badass MasterClass.

Kelsea Koenreich: I love it.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: What's yours called? Let's just put it out there for everybody. What's yours?

Kelsea Koenreich: It's the Freedom Fulfillment Membership. So, just say I do a live coaching every month and yeah. It's like, what's the worst thing that's going to happen? You know what I mean?

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: This is mind blowing. For people listening who think we might of staged this. No.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: We just met, 45 minutes ago.

Kelsea Koenreich: I did, we are actually the same person.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: We are the same person. That is fascinating. Well, I'm sending you all the best, that yours just fills with the women who need you, and the women who need me, find me and-

Kelsea Koenreich: Yes.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: ...continue to do good in the world together.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. I have no doubt that we will cross paths. And yeah, this has been really cool.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Awesome. How can people find you?

Kelsea Koenreich: Mostly on Instagram. That's where I hang out the most. And, it's just my name, Kelsea Koenreich, which I probably have to check the show notes for that.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Okay.

Kelsea Koenreich: inaudible.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I'll put all the links in there, so people could hire you-

Kelsea Koenreich: The last name spelling.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yeah. We'll put it in there for a link, so people could hire you for coaching or join the masterclass, so you've got everything that you do out there and links to your site on Instagram.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yeah. So, I do one- on- one coaching and I do group coaching and then the membership is new. And, I have some courses as well. Right now, everything's full, except the membership.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Yay.

Kelsea Koenreich: So, but it's a great place to start. And, where I actually had a call with my business coach this morning, and there's more stuff coming as usual.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I love that. See, and that's the other thing. We coaches also have a coach, because we- inaudible we do.

Kelsea Koenreich: Always.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Always.

Kelsea Koenreich: Always.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: You're the best. I'm so glad we met. I'm sure this is... We're going to continue to be connected in some way.

Kelsea Koenreich: Yes, for sure. I love this. This is so fun.

Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Thanks for being here.( Singing). This is Rebecca Fleetwood Hession. Thanks so much for being here. We'd love to stay connected. We can do that if you jump into the online community at badass womenscouncil. community. We've got lots of cool people in there already. And if you come in, It'll just be cooler.( Singing).


Rebecca's vibe attracts a new member of her tribe this week when she sits down with Kelsea Koenreich. Kelsea is candid about her past and the struggles she faced as a young adult. Kelsea's willingness to share and be vulnerable is what got her where she is today as a successful lifestyle mentor. Her triumph over the years will surely inspire many that share her story. This week is all about, creativity, openness, and zooming out.

Don't forget to sign up for Rebecca's Badass Masterclass where you will hear, share, and meet other Badass Overachieving Women at the website below.

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Rebecca Fleetwood Hession


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Kelsea Koenreich

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